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The Batgirl Joker variant cover that was pulled has been spurred many a heated debate. Batgirl barbara gordon naked at Panels. It seems most everyone over there considers what happened to Barbara Gordon in The Killing Joke was sexual assault. Shot, crippled, stripped nude and photographed. This firmly falls under attempted murder, assault and torture, but by legal definition I'm not sure it's sexual assault. What say you Comic Vine community? Is it sexual assault? Does it matter?

Is sexual assault worse than physical assault or torture? Jim Gordon was also stripped nude, why do you think this offense go unmentioned? Why did it not define him for the next few decades? But it's ok, I hope that cover pisses them off to no end. I have a giant poster of it in my house now. Honestly, I do kinda see the concern. It's a cool cover, but it really is a huge contrast to the kid friendly book.

I don't think it happened, I meant the rape. It would be unnecessary for the plan that the joker had. I mean how would the commissioner know if the Joker had raped her or not? Jim may have thought of that but It might be just a sick joke of the Joker to make Robin tunney nude fakes think of that.

Who cares about the concern? Children should not be reading Batman in the first place, and if people let their kids read it when Joker has his face cut off and turned into a mask, maybe they should be better parents. He has a gun and she's crying. I think it is Batgirl barbara gordon naked implied that Batgirl barbara gordon naked was. Joker was trying to drive Gordon insane. Given the kind of character Joker is, do people really think Joker has lines that he won't cross?

The writer He said it himself and he wrote the story. The mere fact he has killed pedophiles previously has nothing to do with it? The act of peeling someone else's clothes off without their expressed permission is normally counted as a sexual assault. However, what didn't happen was rape, it's never mentioned by anyone in the books that it happened and from the Joker's standpoint, it didn't need to.

Joker already knows the in's and out's of the sane human mind, he knows how to work it into it's worst corner he's done it a dozen times across several mediasso he knew all he had to do was bombard Jim with pictures of his daughter in that state and Jim would automatically start fearing what he was not seeing, what happened when the creeps weren't taking photoes? And on top of this, the Joker might even have 'defended' Barbara if any of his men went out of line, because that would ruin his 'joke'.

That said, Batgirl barbara gordon naked in Gotham, they wouldn't have had much time to do with since people would react to the gunshot. The reason Jim Batgirl barbara gordon naked stripped naked was another of Joker's tricks, to put him in an unconfortable state but there is Batgirl barbara gordon naked to be more psychology behind it, as there often is with Moore.

It didn't define him, because he wasn't physically or metally crippled by the experience. In a sense, in the world of comics, torture and physical assaults are the part and parcel of the genre. Vigilanties commit physical assault on just about every felon they get their hands on, quite a few of them commit acts of torture physically and mentally of various kinds to get what they want.

And the villains do the same and everyone has sort of agreed that all of this is the nature of the game of supercops and superbackrobbers. Batgirl barbara gordon naked assault is a big no-no however, mostly I imagine it's because comics were aimed at kids. You can show Superman and Batman punching a crook to a kid, but you can't show a man grope on a female.

But even within comic-universes, sexual assaults and whats worse is abhorred, even by hardened supervillains. Like the infamous Dr. This actually Batgirl barbara gordon naked once, you had Luthor, Joker and Cheetah run the Injustice League, and when things went to pot, Cheetah nearly managed to kill Light because of what he was As far as I know, stripping someone naked and photographing them without their consent counts as sexual assault.

The actual writer has said many things, up to and including that Joker was 'given a new hole to play with'. Besides, his denial of the implied rape only came after heavy controversy.

Furthermore, I think it is a bit silly to Batgirl barbara gordon naked the claim that the Joker is above a certain act for the simple fact that he has killed those that perform said act.

You are taking the position that the Joker has some kind of moral compass, which I Batgirl barbara gordon naked both odd and even a little disturbing. Do you identify with Joker in some way? Is that why you are so uncomfortable with the idea that the Joker could have raped someone, that you immediately start a discussion with an insult to those you are trying to engage?

How about this? Who cares? It's a Batgirl barbara gordon naked book cover. Joker has his face cut off in the new story arc. Then proceeds to have it put back on. You're meaning to tell me that rape is the worst thing that has come out of Batman? His parents were killed in front of him Well since it offends people so much, I'll be glad to display my poster of this cover proudly until the day it is just another internet crisis that occurred randomly because some tumblrfarian got butthurt.

I don't really understand the point you are trying to make with Joker's face either. If anything, you are making a point which serves to support that the Joker may have actually raped Barbara. I think you might be confused on which position you want to take in this discussion. He didn't rape Barbara Gordon. The writer specified it did not happen.

But raped? He Batgirl barbara gordon naked not. It has been confirmed several times on several different occasions. He did not rape her. I am making a point which serves to support that people are retarded. That is it. You may want to go read what I said again. But Batgirl barbara gordon naked is not a Batman book, it's a Batgirl book, which is aimed at a younger audience.

I saw it as an act of humiliation and psychological torture. Law typically defines sexual assault as none-consensual touching of the body. You never see The Joker make physical contact with Barbara's person. Only her clothing. This is a discussion about whether or not what the Joker did was technically sexual assault.

Once again, you seem to be confused about which position you want to take up. You may not be aware of this, but saying that Joker is capable of things that you consider far more disturbing and heinous actions than rape, but then say that the Joker would not rape Baraba is sending a bit of a confused and jumbled message.

Once again, Moore said many things during the time of the original publication, one of which was implying that she was raped.

The denial of rape only came after the negative response to the story. If you are trying Batgirl barbara gordon naked make a point that people are retarded, you are failing to make a Batgirl barbara gordon naked case or provide supporting Batgirl barbara gordon naked, other than perhaps anecdotal.

There are people with below-average intelligence but what does that have to do with this thread, The Killing Joke Batgirl barbara gordon naked, or the recent cover controversy? I am fairly certain that those that would classify Batgirl barbara gordon naked having unacceptably low intellect are not those that are Batgirl barbara gordon naked themselves with any of those three subjects.

I think you might be bringing a previous issue you have experienced into this thread. In other words friend, you are projecting. I have not shown an interest or an opinion on any of the things you have been referencing while foaming at the mouth.

Would you care to have a discussion with anything that I am saying or would you prefer to tag those that have previously angered you? You can easily take it that way. I know Moore writes detailed scripts but he should really have thought that through Understandably so but this thread has come from the cover being removed. Otherwise, I don't see this question being asked.

Batgirl barbara gordon naked pissing me off that the cover was removed. But I will leave now as I assumed this is where Batgirl barbara gordon naked thread would be going. Cover rage.

That's all well and good but Batgirl barbara gordon naked am not angry. I am fed up with the fact that all someone has to do is point their finger and say something triggered them and the entire world stops just for them.

This whole "anti-bullying" agenda has made a society of softies and I'm in general fedup. I apologize to you and OP however, the cover controversy is BS and I voiced my opinion here as I assumed this is where the Batgirl barbara gordon naked was going. My apologies.


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